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		<title>Comment on Flooved by JeffE</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 21:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused.  How is this different from posting &quot;existing lecture notes, handouts and study-guides&quot; on your own web page and letting Google find them?

And what&#039;s the business model?  How do they expect to make money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  How is this different from posting &#8220;existing lecture notes, handouts and study-guides&#8221; on your own web page and letting Google find them?</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s the business model?  How do they expect to make money?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organizing knot concordance by Kent Orr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Orr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Codimension Placement Problem and Homology Equivalent Manifolds.&quot; Ann. of Math. (2) 99 (1974), 277–348.  It&#039;s the beginning of a long string of papers on embedding and immersion theory.  Their paper &quot;Link cobordism&quot; may be a little easier to read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Codimension Placement Problem and Homology Equivalent Manifolds.&#8221; Ann. of Math. (2) 99 (1974), 277–348.  It&#8217;s the beginning of a long string of papers on embedding and immersion theory.  Their paper &#8220;Link cobordism&#8221; may be a little easier to read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organizing knot concordance by Ryan Budney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Budney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 14:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for giving me your perspective Kent.  Where does the Cappell-Shaneson result appear, regarding knot concordance in high dimensions?   I&#039;m paging through the mathscinet Cappell-Shaneson papers with no luck so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for giving me your perspective Kent.  Where does the Cappell-Shaneson result appear, regarding knot concordance in high dimensions?   I&#8217;m paging through the mathscinet Cappell-Shaneson papers with no luck so far.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organizing knot concordance by Stefan Friedl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan Friedl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me answer Ryan&#039;s question with a shameless bit of self-advertisement.
Peter Teichner and I wrote a while ago a paper with the title `New topologically slice knots&#039;.
In this paper we propose the following  conjecture for when a knot is topologically slice.

Let K be a knot in S^3. We denote its zero-framed surgery by N_K.
Then we conjecture that K is topologically slice if and only if there exists a an epimorphism from pi_1(N_K) onto a ribbon group,
(i.e. a group with a Wirtinger presentation of deficiency one and with abelianization Z) such that 
Ext_Z[G]^1(H_1(N_K,Z[G]),Z[G])=0.

The condition looks funny, but for G=Z this is just the condition that the Alexander polynomial vanishes. 
The `if&#039; direction of the conjecture was shown for G=Z by Freedman and for G=Z \ltimes Z[1/2] 
in our paper. It is difficult to make much progress on the conjecture as long as we don&#039;t know whether surgery works for all groups. 
The `if&#039; direction has been shown precisely for the two ribbon groups which are solvable, i.e. for which surgery is known to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me answer Ryan&#8217;s question with a shameless bit of self-advertisement.<br />
Peter Teichner and I wrote a while ago a paper with the title `New topologically slice knots&#8217;.<br />
In this paper we propose the following  conjecture for when a knot is topologically slice.</p>
<p>Let K be a knot in S^3. We denote its zero-framed surgery by N_K.<br />
Then we conjecture that K is topologically slice if and only if there exists a an epimorphism from pi_1(N_K) onto a ribbon group,<br />
(i.e. a group with a Wirtinger presentation of deficiency one and with abelianization Z) such that<br />
Ext_Z[G]^1(H_1(N_K,Z[G]),Z[G])=0.</p>
<p>The condition looks funny, but for G=Z this is just the condition that the Alexander polynomial vanishes.<br />
The `if&#8217; direction of the conjecture was shown for G=Z by Freedman and for G=Z \ltimes Z[1/2]<br />
in our paper. It is difficult to make much progress on the conjecture as long as we don&#8217;t know whether surgery works for all groups.<br />
The `if&#8217; direction has been shown precisely for the two ribbon groups which are solvable, i.e. for which surgery is known to work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shape of Data by James Li</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Li]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 22:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree very much with your assessment about the potential of LDtopology/geometry for applied data analysis. Especially, I think 3-manifolds with metric structures may be a source of interesting spaces to simulate dynamics systems and to visualize high dimensional data. I have just started to learn 3 manifolds, and come to your interesting blog. Unfortunately, there are not so many intuitive treatments about those topics. I am looking forwards to more posts in LD-Toplogy and &quot;The share of data&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree very much with your assessment about the potential of LDtopology/geometry for applied data analysis. Especially, I think 3-manifolds with metric structures may be a source of interesting spaces to simulate dynamics systems and to visualize high dimensional data. I have just started to learn 3 manifolds, and come to your interesting blog. Unfortunately, there are not so many intuitive treatments about those topics. I am looking forwards to more posts in LD-Toplogy and &#8220;The share of data&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organizing knot concordance by Kent Orr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Orr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The smooth and topological theories are different, if related animals.  Here&#039;s a very rough idea of the picture that has emerged

Topological concordance is a 4-dimensional surgery problem.  One let&#039;s surgery on the knot bound a 4-manifold, and tries to measure the obstruction to changing this to a homology circle.  Roughly, one expects these obstructions will lie in 1-1 correspondence to concordance classes, as they do in high dimensions.  

One would like to define &quot;homology surgery obstruction groups&quot; for 4-manifolds, which simplifies in high dimensions to the Cappell-Shaneson surgery theory used to classify homology cobordism of high dimensional manifolds.  But things seem much more complicated.  In particular, in dimension 4, Freedman tells us we can iterate Whitney disks, and again roughly speaking, if we do so with sufficient control we can find embedded disks in a compactified regular neighborhood of the tower of Whitney disks.  The Whitney trick allows us to embed spheres in homology classes, and excise 2-dimensional homology classes through surgery.

The filtrations arise from this perspective.  One builds a Whitney tower one stage at a time, sometimes unbuilding and rebuilding to make the tower higher.  This recursive process is reflected through the filtrations on the concordance group.

The tricky part arises because the group of the 4-manifold and the three manifold boundary have closely related fundamental groups, a connection captured through various versions of Poincare duality (linking and intersection theory.)  This is strikingly different than in high dimensions, where all slice knots are slice with complements that have fundamental group the integers.  Understanding this connection deeply lies at the heart of building and computing these filtrations.  This connection of the fundamental groups of the 3 and 4 manifolds began with Casson and Gordon, and their seminal concordance invariants.  Work of others since has elaborated that model, a non-trivial task.

One might hope to come from the other end, and build a surgery group globally instead of recursively, that is, instead of building approximations of surgery groups via invariants indexed on filtrations.  Mark Powell and I have strong ideas of how to do this, and hope to publish something eventually.  But this, like the filtrations approach, still must detect the way the fundamental group can change under concordance, and the resulting theory will be quite abstract.  Only time will tell how computable it may be.

As for smooth concordance, as in high dimensions, one ideally wishes to build a &quot;smoothing theory&quot; which determines concordance classes of knots in a given topological concordance class.  By additivity, it would suffice to compute smooth concordance of topologically slice knots.  But modern 4-dimensional smoothing theory has resisted this approach, and one can&#039;t know if this sort of 4-dimensional smoothing theory exists.  We&#039;re still trying to understand any good global picture of smoothing theory.

The Cochran-Harvey-Horn bi-polar filtration is an admirable step in the direction of conceptually merging topological and smooth concordance theory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smooth and topological theories are different, if related animals.  Here&#8217;s a very rough idea of the picture that has emerged</p>
<p>Topological concordance is a 4-dimensional surgery problem.  One let&#8217;s surgery on the knot bound a 4-manifold, and tries to measure the obstruction to changing this to a homology circle.  Roughly, one expects these obstructions will lie in 1-1 correspondence to concordance classes, as they do in high dimensions.  </p>
<p>One would like to define &#8220;homology surgery obstruction groups&#8221; for 4-manifolds, which simplifies in high dimensions to the Cappell-Shaneson surgery theory used to classify homology cobordism of high dimensional manifolds.  But things seem much more complicated.  In particular, in dimension 4, Freedman tells us we can iterate Whitney disks, and again roughly speaking, if we do so with sufficient control we can find embedded disks in a compactified regular neighborhood of the tower of Whitney disks.  The Whitney trick allows us to embed spheres in homology classes, and excise 2-dimensional homology classes through surgery.</p>
<p>The filtrations arise from this perspective.  One builds a Whitney tower one stage at a time, sometimes unbuilding and rebuilding to make the tower higher.  This recursive process is reflected through the filtrations on the concordance group.</p>
<p>The tricky part arises because the group of the 4-manifold and the three manifold boundary have closely related fundamental groups, a connection captured through various versions of Poincare duality (linking and intersection theory.)  This is strikingly different than in high dimensions, where all slice knots are slice with complements that have fundamental group the integers.  Understanding this connection deeply lies at the heart of building and computing these filtrations.  This connection of the fundamental groups of the 3 and 4 manifolds began with Casson and Gordon, and their seminal concordance invariants.  Work of others since has elaborated that model, a non-trivial task.</p>
<p>One might hope to come from the other end, and build a surgery group globally instead of recursively, that is, instead of building approximations of surgery groups via invariants indexed on filtrations.  Mark Powell and I have strong ideas of how to do this, and hope to publish something eventually.  But this, like the filtrations approach, still must detect the way the fundamental group can change under concordance, and the resulting theory will be quite abstract.  Only time will tell how computable it may be.</p>
<p>As for smooth concordance, as in high dimensions, one ideally wishes to build a &#8220;smoothing theory&#8221; which determines concordance classes of knots in a given topological concordance class.  By additivity, it would suffice to compute smooth concordance of topologically slice knots.  But modern 4-dimensional smoothing theory has resisted this approach, and one can&#8217;t know if this sort of 4-dimensional smoothing theory exists.  We&#8217;re still trying to understand any good global picture of smoothing theory.</p>
<p>The Cochran-Harvey-Horn bi-polar filtration is an admirable step in the direction of conceptually merging topological and smooth concordance theory.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When are two hyperbolic 3-manifolds homeomorphic? by Henry Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Wilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 12:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For future reference, to make John&#039;s comment appear correctly I replaced the angle brackets with &lt; and &gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For future reference, to make John&#8217;s comment appear correctly I replaced the angle brackets with &amp;lt; and &amp;gt;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When are two hyperbolic 3-manifolds homeomorphic? by Sóstenes Lins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sóstenes Lins]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Refer to version 4 of the first challenge. The previous versions have mistakes in the presentations. In fact we only need the drawing of the blackboard framed link which
completely defines the closed 3-manifold, hence its fundamental group.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refer to version 4 of the first challenge. The previous versions have mistakes in the presentations. In fact we only need the drawing of the blackboard framed link which<br />
completely defines the closed 3-manifold, hence its fundamental group.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When are two hyperbolic 3-manifolds homeomorphic? by Henry Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Wilton]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, that is precisely Nathan&#039;s strategy (except the subgroups he&#039;s looking at are not actually normal).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is precisely Nathan&#8217;s strategy (except the subgroups he&#8217;s looking at are not actually normal).</p>
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		<title>Comment on When are two hyperbolic 3-manifolds homeomorphic? by Celso</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Celso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 11:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Henry. This discussion is rather stimulating though am I not an expertise on the topic. I would like to understand Nathan strategy. As far as I could understand what he has done was  to find finite index normal subgroups of pi_1(G1) and compute the abelianization, what is equivalent to look at the finite covers of G1 and their H_1. (right ?) I am impressed with all this computer aid ! John Berge post is amazing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Henry. This discussion is rather stimulating though am I not an expertise on the topic. I would like to understand Nathan strategy. As far as I could understand what he has done was  to find finite index normal subgroups of pi_1(G1) and compute the abelianization, what is equivalent to look at the finite covers of G1 and their H_1. (right ?) I am impressed with all this computer aid ! John Berge post is amazing.</p>
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